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  Any good answers at this Sunday's WT?

  by Lemonp in

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  obviously this weeks' wt has been part 3 of big changes in the doctrine.

  at the end i answered up saying along the lines of: "as we can see from the illustration box, when it comes to the reward being given to the slaves, divine appointment was not given in 1919. this will happen in future when the anointed get taken before armageddon".

  i couldn't bring myself to say "raptured at armageddon" as i think people might have taken a closer look at me...but it felt good to call out publicly the bull sh#t date of 1919 .

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  Good link here, these guy's nail it ! :

  http://meletivivlon.com/2015/05/24/wt-study-loyally-supporting-christs-brothers/
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  Any good answers at this Sunday's WT?

  by Lemonp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  obviously this weeks' wt has been part 3 of big changes in the doctrine.

  at the end i answered up saying along the lines of: "as we can see from the illustration box, when it comes to the reward being given to the slaves, divine appointment was not given in 1919. this will happen in future when the anointed get taken before armageddon".

  i couldn't bring myself to say "raptured at armageddon" as i think people might have taken a closer look at me...but it felt good to call out publicly the bull sh#t date of 1919 .

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  It seems to me that the GB used the illustration to promote themselves and to promote the preaching work of JWs, without clear scriptural backing for either.

  X2, not just seems, it IS !

  Red flags all over the place for me on this WT, will wait till the next one to get back to a meeting and go from there. This particular issue of the WT reeks self promotion as so well put it Torn In Two
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  Bro Loesch's talk.

  by New day in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently i heard through video link to our kh a talk by bro loesch where he attacked university study (again) but this time he prefaced his remarks by saying, and i quote, "the faithful slave does not forbid you to go to university.

  " so this was a bad start as his following remarks made it clear that this was just a way of seeming reasonable while basically saying that we shouldn't do it.

  he went on to use an illustration i think he has used before about a man with ocd who decided to kill himself.

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  I found the gun shot suicide reference pretty disgusting and gruesome. Being a suicidal depression survivor myself it was way, way out of line.

  I can now honestly say that I have very little if any respect for the GB and it's company men. As stated here before they are an embarrassment. Sure they get one such as myself that had little if any Bible knowledge up to speed real quick but their methods and man made doctrines leave much to be desired.
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  Do You Remember The Days When The Society Would Say Everything Pictured Something About Them?😇

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  when you look at the society's literature, it is pretty comical to see how important they believed they were.

  it seems to be not as bad under the new regime but they certainly believe they are a special people.

  lol

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  Being relatively new the 1919 application was a red flag for me

  607 and 1914 I'm now on the fence at least and researching it.

  Oh mentioned it before, one Gilead student experience where he heard the instructor mention

  Elijah and Elisha being prophetic to Russell and Rutherford hahahaha !!
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  Can This Be True?

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  i was very tired today, still am.

  age is getting to me.

  that video will be shown to millions of parents around the world.

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  HMTM you may like these sites, I go there and print up articles to read at home quietly :

  perimeno.ca and Beroean Pickets

  Take care man
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  BR. LETT- Do YOU "Imitate Jesus!"? Many On This Site Do So Daily!

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  br.

  lett, people on this site imitate jesus every day.

  they imitate jesus' custom of pointing out the hypocrisy, self-love and greed the religious leaders in his religion practiced daily.

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  The Governing Body believes its own propaganda. You can't get more blind than that.

  (Matthew 6:23) . . .If in reality the light that is in you is darkness, how great that darkness is!

  X2 bro !
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  What triggered your doubts / awakening?

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?

  for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.

  ...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!

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  For me it was a brother that I met 15 years ago who dared me to research lingering doubts I have always harbored, such as the GB's own claims of being the only WAY and their crazy self justifying dates. But I must say that my recent awakening has not diminished my love of God nor his son Jesus. If anything Bible truth is getting brighter for me.

  Reading NewBoy's Bethel experiences were great for shock value, but I have since let off researching the negative things and am looking at building myself up on the positives. COC is a must reda also. I'm not quite through it, I go at it gradually as it cam be too much all at once.
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  Suggestions for Governing Body 2.0

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i realize many people on here are very angry at the watchtower society and/or governing body for various reasons, many of which are likely justified, at least to some extent.

  i also can totally understand the cynicism and pessimism i see from certain ones regarding the leaders of the society.. i think one thing that's often forgotten or overlooked, however, is the fact that members of the governing body who've been "in the truth" for 30, 40, 50, 60 years, probably truly believe in this organization.

  in my opinion, it's more likely that they believe what they teach instead of being liars who are intentionally deceiving everyone.

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  Totally agree Done 4 Good, it's all about job security ' FOR THEMSELVES '
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  Suggestions for Governing Body 2.0

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i realize many people on here are very angry at the watchtower society and/or governing body for various reasons, many of which are likely justified, at least to some extent.

  i also can totally understand the cynicism and pessimism i see from certain ones regarding the leaders of the society.. i think one thing that's often forgotten or overlooked, however, is the fact that members of the governing body who've been "in the truth" for 30, 40, 50, 60 years, probably truly believe in this organization.

  in my opinion, it's more likely that they believe what they teach instead of being liars who are intentionally deceiving everyone.

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  I looked over the March 15 WT to get ready for next weeks meeting. I put it down is disgust, it's a GB ' We are the Anointed '( insert Queen song here ) stroke propaganda. I just want to go to the hall to learn about Jehovah, his Son and get bible based counsel and education. They make it all about themselves, bunch of glory seeking narcissists. Having come in on my own 15 years ago and being inactive last couple due to health and work reasons I now see a major shift where as we used to get into the odd article on the GB, now it's all about them. I'd be embarrassed to bring a study or 'worldly' friend along to a meeting. They've lost it and are attempting to regain the upper hand it seems. They really are convinced that they are ' IT '
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  A Burger and a Hook-up

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i went to get a burger just now, and a couple of elders from my former congregation caught me off guard.

  they started giving me the we feel so sorry for you, you must be so lonely bit.

  i kept telling them im doing great and im not lonely but its like they couldnt hear me talking.

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  1 with two children and 1 with one child. All in their 30s.

  ROFLMAO........

  Trying to turn you on to their "damaged" goods eh......

  What happens if you marry a woman with dependents is that they become your responsibility.

  Now I can understand if you meet 'The One' it's all fun and games. However the likelihood of that happening is remote, and if ever there's a divorce later on the man will be stuck paying for the whole bunch. Such is the law of the land, no thanks !